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Zildjian A 18" Crash cymbal Last viewed: 1 hour ago

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Maby you can help me out I am looking to complete my kit with more Avedis Zildjian's. Along with two 60's rides 20" and 22" I have a 16" crash Avedis Zildjian I bought in the early 80's. and a 16" Ludwig Paiste Formula 602I bought in 1970. I want to add a 18" crash and something small 10 to 14".

On E-bay there is a 18" A Zildjian that I can bid for up to 15:50 today. It's at $79.00 now and looks really nice.

The caption on the add reads..

GREAT CRASH/RIDE CYMBAL !* WEIGHS APPROX. 1700 gr. *OUTLINED 1970'S ZILDJIAN LOGO.

Is this a good choice for a crash and how much would you bid? Also how much can you tell from the weight of a cymbal?

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Posted on 16 years ago
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Honestly, there's no telling how it's going to sound. That's the beauty of the cymbal art. Every one is a bit different. From the description of your setup, this would be a natural choice. For that era/make/model of cymbal, that's a good price. You will never know if it's THE cymbal until you set in in place on your kit and work it. That's just the nature of the beasties. There are two of them here local (Zildjian 18 C/R 70's). One is $69.00 out the door and the other is $149.00 out the door. They are being sold at the same pawn shop. Just goes to show you...

Posted on 16 years ago
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The only way to know if its a good fit is to hear it in person. Sound files give an idea, but aren't always accurate.....lots of variables....room size and construction, microphone placement and type/quality, type of stick used to play it for the recording, the way the person recording it plays it, etc. I've never had much luck buying Zildjian cymbals off of ebay, or any online box type store either.....they may be in good shape, or be a good deal, or may sound great in a sound file, but when yu get it, it may not fit with your current cymbals. Paiste cymbals seem to be more consistant than Zildjians as far as from one cymbal to another. If I was to buy any cymbal online without a sound clip it would be Paiste......they strive to make every cymbal that goes out their door to sound the same as the first one (as far as size weight and type goes). That said, I'm not a huge fan of Paiste, but they have their following. The key to finding a cymbal to fit with your current set is to bring them with you when you are selecting a new one. Personally, I'd go for the Armand series over the vintage ones.....you might have to go through a pile of the vintage ones until you find the one you are looking for, which is harder to do since vintage A's are starting to become quite coveted now. Some are real clankers and some are real sweet......like the saying goes, one mans trash is anothers treasure. Armands are the closest you will get to those old cymbals and get this....you get a warranty on it too!

Posted on 16 years ago
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[COLOR="DarkRed"]IMHO, 1700g on an old Avedis 18...was NOT a good weight....ergo the low BIN. My experience would tell me it's gonna be pingy and clangy.

18"-ers, you wanna keep in the range of 1350-1600g for a "medium" crash or crash/ride cymbal....

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Posted on 16 years ago
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18"-ers...the Rodney Dangerfields of cymbal sizes !Falling Do

There are so many old 18" A's out there, it's almost hard not to fall over one. Keep lookin'.

Posted on 16 years ago
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I have a 70's 18" A Zil for sale - http://vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=6521

PM me if interested - 1500 grams or thereabouts.

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Posted on 16 years ago
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