Looks like an old-timer owned that one.....30's-40's style CONSOLE mount, not a consolette, with hoop mounted spurs....definately something an old timer would have done......if he already had the hardware, why buy new stuff? Order the drum without legs and mounts and it would be cheaper and then reuse hardware you already have......sounds like the senario to me......

yeah, got it off craigslist - was her dad's or uncles, was put in storage for a since the last time he played...

Said the floor tom is somewhere they couldn't find it and the rack tom he lost, but used a generic tom that they gave me. No cymbals, had some hardware, but only sold me the drums. The hardware I never saw, said they had a WFL bass pedal and hi hat stand...

And it's mint!

best thing I got the deal of a life time, $200

Ludwig-dude

Beatnikjazz

The big rail, being a "console" mount, when trimmed down to the smaller size in later years, becomes a "consolette"...... makes perfect sense, Thanks for the knowledge, guys!!

Awesome knowledge pool on this here Forum, Wow!!!

thanks everybody for the info,

[QUOTE=kevins;34524...The big rail, being a "console" mount, when trimmed down to the smaller size in later years, becomes a "consolette...[/QUOTE]

So far, research shows that the consolette idea came from a Slingerland salesman from New York City back in 1951 or '52. Walberg & Auge built it for Slingerland, who took all the credit, of course, and introduced it as their "Ray McKinnley mount" - later known as the rail consolette, for a single tom. But I've seen a few '50s and '60s versions mounted on the center of the bass drum with two risers for "twin" tom mounting. It was common to see twin 8x12's early on - with Slingerland, Gretsch, and Camco, anyway.

Ludwig used the same W&A rail consolette early on, but they soon offered their own version with a better ratchet system and a wider-stance four-bolt base. Slingerland copied Ludwig's four-bolt base with a redesign of their own, though they used both that one and the original two-bolt W&A seemingly at random throughout the late '50s and early '60s before they came out with their Set-O-Matic design.

Cool historym this kind of stuff.

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