I have heard that A.Zil usually took DOG sounding Mediums...and riveted them...
To rivet or not to rivet? That is the question. Last viewed: 3 hours ago
where DOG means
Delightful
Or
Good
perhaps? Otherwise it does sound to me like one of those "let's disrespect the market leader for sneaky practices" internet rumors. Of course, I don't know one way or the other...
I've riveted many. Never regretted it. Chains etc sound nothing like rivets to me. I usually put the cymbal on a stand in normal position and then spin it and play it until I work out where it wants to rest. Then I drill three holes at the top of the cymbal, so I won't hit them. I also have 3 0r 4 rides with rivets about an inch in from the edge, evenly spaced. They're a pain to pack, but I love a good sizzle. I even have punters coming up to ask about them. $00.02
groovesonly.
I have the same cymbal as you.
Mine was factory drilled for sizzles.
I bought it without the sizzles.
But I did order some from Zildjain and installed them.
They were aluminum, didn't like the sound of them at all. They killed the sustain.
I know the original brass or copper one's do sound a lot better. just haven't searched hard enough to find them.
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Try this when deciding on the hole locations. Put the cymbal in the stand so it's flat. Hit the cymbal with your thumb or a mallet or whatever. Now take the stick tip and let it rest on the cymbal up by the bell. Slowly pull it away from the bell and when it starts to bounce a lot you've found where rivets will work well. You want those rivets in a spot that will rattle them easily. This is usually about 2" or 2 1/4" inward from the edge depending on the cymbal.Steve
Thanks for the feedback all. I went ahead and drilled it. Used Bernese reco and found the sweet spot. The cymbal has solid key-holing, so finding the right side was a no-brainer. It's a good second option to my K Con with rivets. Surprisingly, the holes didn't dry it out at all, or at least that I can hear. My K Con dried up a tad when I drilled it.
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Do like a frog and rivet rivet. ;) I think it's a good idea. I too play an all ride cymbal set up - a 22" and 2x 20" left and right and I'll use a chain every now and then because I'm just not brave enough to drill my cymbals, but I'd definitely like to own a cymbal that has been drilled with the option of adding rivets.
If I were to drill a cymbal I'd drill the holes so that the cymbal remained symmetrical. I don't know if putting all the holes together on one side would effect the balance or not.
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