I offered him $1100.00 shipped. Eye Ball

Theif! Theif! LOL!!!

I'd tell the kid what he has, educate him a little on vintage cymbals and what difference jazz and rock drummers like.

Then I'd offer to take him to a music store and buy him whatever hi-hat cymbals he wanted in exchange for those old Ks.

He'd be happy, I'd be happy, and the world would seem a little brighter...

LOL! I know....I know. But I was totally upfront about the fact that the Jazzette drums were worth more than that. I think he also appreciated that I had been honest with him. From his perspective, he basically gained about a thousand bucks profit because his wife was astute enough to spend $30 for a set of drums at a yard sale. It very easily could have also been a case where his wife didn't get them and they ended up given away -or worse!

Another example was at a local junk shop awhile back: I was walking by this place....something shiny caught my eye. It was a B/O Supra. I stopped and pressed my nose up against the glass to shield out the sunlight and it looked pretty nice. I also saw a 24" concert bass drum -silver sparkle Ludwig keystone badge and a VERY poorly painted-over Standard floor tom (single-headed "concert tom" style).

I went in and asked the lady what she wanted for the drums. She said she didn't know anything about drums and to make her an offer. I looked in my wallet and I had about $100 cash. I said, "How about $70 for everything?" SOLD!

The Supra polished up perfectly and is nearly mint. I put it with my 70's Deluxe Classic kit

The bass drum was re-sold for $200

The floor tom was stripped and is in my wood shop waiting to one day be made into a portable mini bass drum.

I'm sure the junk lady thought I was an idiot for not offering less to start out! But I think I did okay!Burger Kin

If you dont buy it, someone else probably would have. if he didnt have any hi hats after selling these, then I might throw in some that I have. Some shiney b8's or shiney zbt's or some scimiter's or something, furthermore, the kid might have been selling something out of grampa's attick to get money for who knows what. How old was the kid? What was his attitude? Where was his parents?

I watch cl everyday, you never know what will be there. I have some vintage zeldjian hi hats i need to look up. they sound so sweet but arent near as shiney as some others I have but ang sure sound better than most. My brother gave them to me with the teardrop sonors. I had no idea the sonors were so collectable untill I investigated. The boy will live and learn. my Step mom(monster) sold my 1st drum kit (slingerland 4 piece) in a garage sale for $50, without my permission. What goes around comes around, I HOPE!

Take the cymbals. Give him an extra fifty bucks. He will be happy, you will be happy. A pair of nice cymbals like that belong in the right hands. I'll give you 175.00 for em!

O-Lugs, when you made your offer on the Jazzette, but also told them what the set was really worth, and still they accepted, then everybody did the right thing for that situation, the buyer was appreciative of your honesty, and you were rewarded with a good deal for maintaining your integrity.... the seller got the fulfillment of being able to show appreciation for the honesty of another human being, and everyone wound up with a few more dollars in their pockets than they would have, had things been handled purely from a materialistic point of view. No regrets, no grudges, everyone gets a good night's sleep. On the cymbal deal, it seems a similar approach might achieve similar results. I would be up front about the value, make an offer within my means, then knowing I've done the right thing on my part, I have no grudges, no regrets, no matter which way the deal goes from there. My part is done, it's then up to the seller to do their part. If I don't wind up with the cymbals, then I wasn't supposed to. If I do, then I was. Besides, so what if I do give a few more bucks for the cymbals? I do wind up with them, plus I am able to pass on some knowledge to the kid to boot .... doesn't everybody come out to the good in a lot of ways? Sometime in the future, that kid might be the one to help me out, ya know? I've read in previous posts something about taking the deal as is, but , just because the kid doesn't know he's being taken doesn't mean I win the deal. The kid loses a little money, but is unaware ... I lose my integrity, and know it. Hmmmmm... there's is clearly a loser there, and it's not the kid ...... just my humble opinion, of course....

AMEN!!! Well said. If your integrity is for sale and your ethics are out the door, then you've got more to deal with than a good set of cymbals. Think about it.

Sorry pal, but that's speech is just a bit too much gosh, golly, gee whiz for me. Rewarded for a good deal for integrity?? Since when are drums not materialistic? As is paying for them a fair price?? If you've got a guilty conscious for paying too little for something, that's your thing and have fun dealing with that. My integrity stands firm whether or not I'm getting the deal of the century or not, and I don't believe in karma either.

Just curious in your eyes, if I get ripped off, does that mean I've done wrong to someone and I'm getting just due? :mad:

Considering that integrity is the quality of being honest, how does ones integrity stay intact when you are knowingly taking advantage of someone else? There is a conflict here that is very apparent. I have a feeling this is not where this thread was intended to go. I'll just leave this on the table and move on.