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Rogers vs Gretsch vintage drums Last viewed: 1 hour ago

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Rogers all the way Better shells, better finish, better details, way batter hardware(no comparison), they have substain all day a 14x20 inch Rogers bass drum is the loudest most well projected of all the top 4.. I played them for 45 years and I had the chance to play whatever i wanted and i chose Rogers all the way..

Posted on 12 years ago
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From Rik_Everglade

Rogers lug style just appears a bit gaudy to me. Their drums are nice, as long as I don't look at them.

Funny you should say that..

I used to have a customer in Conn who was buying all sorts of stuff from me..

I tried to get him to buy some Rogers,but he couldn't get past the lugs!..I like them though...

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 12 years ago
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From Gravy

Apples and Oranges!!!!Both are superb. I own both in the 12,14,20 configuration. here is my very limited take on it. Gretsch: MOJO. I don't think the gum does as much to the sound as their die cast rims and reverse rounded bearing edges. The sound is all Blue Note: Lots of tone with a quick decay. Likes a lot of notes. To me, they have a real earthy tone like it came out of the ground or something. Round Badge kits can have issues such as lifting wrap, oversize shells and less than stellar metal work. I've found that my kit likes to be tuned on the higher side. When I sit down to play, I feel tempted to just tap out melodies or play a light jazzy type of passage.Rogers: Sustain. I'm new to the Rogers world but I really like these drums. Sharp bearing edges and undersize shells contribute to a big sound. Easier to tune in my opinion but choke out in ultra high tunings in my limited experience when comparing to Gretsch. I like higher tunings (not bebop) and the Rogers go there very well. Top notch chrome and hardware too on Cleveland era stuff. Issues I've heard about is cracking wrap and reinforcement hoop issues. When I sit down to play these drums, I often want to lay down a groove. The toms ring longer than the Gretsch so I don't feel the need to play a lot of notes on them. I like to hear the toms ring. These drums have a more modern sound but the age of the wood mellows them out. And very important: The heads fit!!!!!Just my limited opinion!!!!!!

+1 Man, you just can't say it much better than that. I'll allow you to speak for me too on this topic.

John

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Gretsch any and every day of the week

I do like Rogers kits a lot

but as far as overall sound ....to me nothing touches Gretsch round badge kits made in Brooklyn

Posted on 12 years ago
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From dirtydrums

Laughing HLaughing HLaughing H"The Rogers company was started in 1849 by an Irish immigrant from Dublin named Joseph Rogers."I Engineer and Record Vintage Drums- I owned and recorded Round Badges.Love both sounds- But lean more towards Rogers- (Again.......Preference) No offense

All good, brother. :-)

B

Vintage Drum Fan (Not a Guru)
Posted on 12 years ago
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Thumbs up for the wood Powertone snare!

Never play it the same way once.
Posted on 12 years ago
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This is a very interesting thread. I have 3 Ludwig kits and they are all 12, 13, 16, 22 kits. I have been wanting to get either a 12, 14, 20 or 12, 14, 18 kit and had been really looking at a Rogers. I have always respected the Gretsch round badges because if the $$ they fetch and because of their beautiful simplicity as far as looks. Simple hardware with those great round badges. Beauty. But man would I cut off a finger for a pink ripple Rogers kit. I have a 13, 16, 20 Trixon that I have been trying to sell with no luck. I'd keep it but I don't want 13, 16 toms. I WANT 12, 14 DARNIT!!

-Beau

1969 Ludwig Big Beat Mod Orange 12/13/16/22
1976 Ludwig Green Vistalite 12/13/16/22 & 5 1/2x14
1940 Ludwig & Ludwig Universal Concert Snare 6.5x14
2013 C&C Aged WMP 13/16/22


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Posted on 12 years ago
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I currently own a classic Rogers Holiday- the kick drum and snare are Daytons and the tons are early Fullertons. Best drums ever made, maybe not mine specifically but the '64 to 72 script logo/beavertails as a whole. Cream of the crop.

A few years back I had a newer Gretsch catalina club jazz kit, they were very nice but I had to sell them cuz the 18" kick drum would never stay in place. If I had the $ I would love to own a '61 Gretsch round badge champagne sparkle but I'll stick with my wmp Rogers Holiday. :-)

Posted on 12 years ago
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I own a few of these set's 2 Roger's 18-12-14 and 3 Gretsch same size's..Gretsch win's hand's down with the three ply shell's the sound is killer!!!.I do rent out both of these name's set's to studio's.infact i get call's 6 to 8 month's ahead of time from the studio's to rent the Gretsch set's.Not many calls for the Roger's set's.I would say out of 100 call's 99 of them are for the Gretsch set's......Mikey

Posted on 12 years ago
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From Gravy

Gretsch: Lots of tone with a quick decay. Likes a lot of notes. To me, they have a real earthy tone like it came out of the ground or something. I feel tempted to just tap out melodies or play a light jazzy type of passage.Rogers: Sustain. Sharp bearing edges and undersize shells contribute to a big sound. I like higher tunings (not bebop) and the Rogers go there very well. The toms ring longer than the Gretsch so I don't feel the need to play a lot of notes on them. I like to hear the toms ring. These drums have a more modern sound but the age of the wood mellows them out.

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Good ears and a great pen. Bowing

Posted on 12 years ago
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