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Questions about a Gretsch 5pc set Last viewed: 3 hours ago

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We got the missing hoop (see pic)!

And here are pics of the snare drum that he's including with the set.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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OK, please don't take this wrong, but that snare might make this look like an amateur sale. That is a really cheap, low end Pearl, Made in Taiwan snare made for a basic, beginner set. And it does it no justice. I am not trying to a jerk, but it is what it is, a $30 drum, on a good day. And this set will not go to a beginner, so I would say that you list very prominently the snare is available if needed in order to complete the kit, but not that it is necessary to complete the kit.

Since the original Gretsch snare is not available, it will likely affect the value of the final sale. Not likely to make it not saleable, as they are Gretsch and will sell quickly, but the snare is likely going to impact it's overall acceptance.

I would list it something as "only to show the completeness of the kit, and is available for free if wanted or needed."

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Posted on 15 years ago
#12
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Hey, no offense taken whatsoever, I appreciate the honest feedback.

He's a guitar guy, not a drum guy, and my knowledge of drums wouldn't fill a thimble Cool Dude

I'll tell him what you said and if he still wants to include that snare (I doubt he will now), I'll definitely downplay it in the ad. I think he'll be surprised to hear it though, because he seemed to indicate to me that he thought it was a really nice snare. I'm not certain but I thought he called it a Holston or Halston or something like that.

Just like the 10 lugs he thought he had on the bass drum, he may just be going by what someone else told him. Or it's possible I'm the one that's confused and took pics of the wrong one. He's remodeling and moving lots of stuff around and wasn't in the room when I took the pics.

Posted on 15 years ago
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It looks like a 10 lugger, but it is the Made In Taiwan that makes it not so desirable. It likely sounds OK, as those are often sold today as "Student Snares" and have about 50 different names on them. Not a bad snare, just nothing desirable. The lugs and shell design are what give it away, they are used by many "brand" names and were originally developed by Pearl in the very late 70s. The first drums they showed up on, enmasse, were the Maxwin/Royce/Import in the very early days of those series, and then continued for years on many Taiwanese stencils. WorldMax, an international supply house, still has them foundered today, and they can still be found on that type of thin, chromed shell. They are everywhere.

Anyway, good luck with the sale!

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
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Posted on 15 years ago
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That bottom floor tom hoop does NOT look like a Gretsch die cast hoop to me. I would be sure and get the matching hoop and correct tension rods before you try to sell the kit as "100% original"....otherwise mention that it is a triple flanged replacement hoop.

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Posted on 15 years ago
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Agreed...

Instead of saying "We got THE missing hoop", I should have said we found A hoop to replace the original one that's missing.

Posted on 15 years ago
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From bugeaterz

Agreed...Instead of saying "We got THE missing hoop", I should have said we found A hoop to replace the original one that's missing.

You may just want to for go the gretsch rim and tension rods, the are going to be expensive, and just deduct that for the sale price!! and make sure that it is mentioned!

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 15 years ago
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Yes, I was thinking about several options like that as well.

Maybe doing that, AND trying to find a Gretsch snare that matches one that may have been sold with the original kit...plus vintage stands, vintage cymbals, etc,

Then, not only could we feel OK about using the word "vintage" in our for-sale ad, but we'd be getting pretty dang close to being able to use words like "genuine", "original", "authentic", and "complete" to describe the kit, right?

Right now he's only interested in advertising & selling it locally (i.e. craigslist, local music web pages, etc.). He doesn't want to hassle with shipping/packaging, etc. and would rather a local drummer stop by, pick it up, and maybe get some new buddies to jam with ;)

But if he doesn't get any bites locally, I don't think it would take much for me to convince him that if he can find the original hoop & rods and a gretsch snare from the early 70's, then he could proudly advertise it on places like ebay or amazon (or even places like this forum loaded with gurus who really know their sh*t!) as an original, complete kit and ask 1000 dollars plus the cost of those items, plus X dollars(?) for turning it into a complete kit.

I'd be a heckuvalot better than posting it with a replacement hoop and a student snare Cool Dude

And I'm pretty sure, if he wanted, he could just say in the ad that the buyer is responsible for shipping costs...then he can just take it to the local ups and give the buyer a copy of the bill.

Posted on 15 years ago
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Mountain out of a mole hill.

Describe the set as to model, year, and condition.

You can state "complete and original with exception of" ............

Set your price accordingly.

You will spend more on buying the stands, bass pedal, and cymbals piece by piece than you will get back on the sale. Parted out pieces are nearly always more expensive, that's why some jerks break a set down to the lugs.

Where are you located, someone on this forum may be close, and interested in the set ??...........

Kevin
Posted on 15 years ago
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From kevins

Mountain out of a mole hill.Describe the set as to model, year, and condition.You can state "complete and original with exception of" ............Set your price accordingly.You will spend more on buying the stands, bass pedal, and cymbals piece by piece than you will get back on the sale. Parted out pieces are nearly always more expensive, that's why some jerks break a set down to the lugs. Where are you located, someone on this forum may be close, and interested in the set ??...........

+++1 on the advice given!!!

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 15 years ago
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