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Do you think the Powertone bass drum came as a kit with the two Holiday toms? I know the name "Holiday" was phased out by Rogers in the late '60s early '70s and replaced with "Powertone". I'm guessing these drums, or at least the bass drum, came from the "Ultra-Power" configuration. Do you know if this configuration or similar ones were be manufactured before 1970?
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Jaye thanks for your help on this thread.
Anyone have any info on this?
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Up until today I would have said that there's no way those were all from the same factory kit...BUT...interestingly enuff, another member just posted his Fullerton Holiday set in another section here....and the tags on it sort of contradict the generally accepted knowledge on early Fullertons.
So...it could well be that your toms with the Holiday tags and your bass with the Powertone tag were all of the same factory set...they are certainly of around the same vintage (within a year or two of each other). The Hoilday kit aforementioned seems to be a '71, the Powertone Fullerton tags w/ decorative border came about in '71-2....[/COLOR]
From the Rogers Owners Forum, posted by the Late Great Longroll.....
The transition from Dayton, OH to Fullerton, CA was in 1969. Leftover Dayton tags were used first in Fullerton, CA. Fullerton "Holiday" tags started in late 1969. Fullerton "Powertone" tags started in1971. Fullerton "9/72" tags started in late 1972. Generally that's the way it went, but there were no computers then, no records with serial numbers, they just built drums and got them out the door. There were boxes of parts from Cleveland, Dayton, that came to Fullerton. There are drums out there that were built in Fullerton but have Cleveland tags on them, it just happened, not a lot, but they do exist. Bruce
Bruce was the most knowledgable Rogers Guru on the planet.
[COLOR="DarkRed"]I plucked a similar quote from him a while back:
[SIZE="1"][COLOR="Indigo"]"All the tags looked about the same, Cleveland, Dayton, until Fullerton.
In Fullerton 1970 they started using left over Dayton tags.
"That same year they made Fullerton, CA Holiday tags, smaller in size like a credit card. It didn't have a fancy printed border, it was plain. These were short lived. They then made Fullerton, CA Powertone tags (with a border), again short lived 1971 to 1972. In Sept 1972 they ordered the 9/72 small sticker tags. By the time they got them and started to use them it was the very end of 1972 or the beginning of 1973. These were used until 1975 when the Big R foil badges started." [/COLOR]
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But this info, and your quote, still makes me wonder...did they keep using Fullerton Hoiday tags after 1969, or did the subsequent Powertone tags supercede the Holiday ones completely ?
It's just that this is the second set in as many weeks here which shows these Fullerton Hoilday tags.....
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The guys building drums at Rogers..... built drums. Looking back 30.. 40 .. almost 50 years later... we are far more interested in paper tags now... than they were then. Early fullertons came out with a mismash of tags. Even to the point there are speckled gray drums with cleveland holiday tags. And while new tags were being put into drums, there were still some of the old tags on the table. So, they got put. For the people building the Best USA made drums of the 60s it worked, to us that sounds haphazzard. So you may ask, We know this how?... the short answer is because there are sets out there still in original hands.....purchased new, that bare these things out.
