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>Kerning. Now, that's a word I haven't heard since my Compugraphic days

Kerning = Is the design of copy/fonts and the adjustment of the spacing between (letters or characters) in a piece of text to be printed.

Sorry for using, jargon. I was talking to another printer (Glenn) in a language specific to our trade. That tag was a bee-atch to do! You'll see when you get your tags that the spacing of words and individual letters on the original tags was all over the map. If I ran the shop that produced those tags originally, I would have fired the typographer on the spot. It was done horribly and all wrong.

In order to recreate and to maintain the look of the original piece, I had to follow the original typographers foot prints in the snow. It wasn't easy, the copy is all over the map on the original as I mentioned. Weird breaks and spacing everywhere. I had to blow everything up by 250% on my computer just to work on it and make the corrections and adjustments that were needed. There was broken copy/letters and words all over the place that I cleaned up one by one, by hand.

Positioning the graphics and copy where they needed to be is part of what I used to do for a living. Because Glenn is a fellow printing tradesman, he can appreciate the work that went into making that tag look as bad as the original! I am trained to make things look correct. Intentionally making something look bad/wrong to match an original is not an easy thing to do! LOL

Glenn - again, great job on the tags. I know running those odd-shaped tags through a multi was not an easy press run for you. How did you run the back-ups? Had to be a PITA with that really odd-shaped tag. Usually you'd run regular card stock and the bindery guys would die-cut the cards. Work & turn baby! Nice work, man.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 10 years ago
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Hi John thanks. Yes indeed man they were a real pia to run! I ran them on a Ryobi 3302 press. The guy got rid of his multi. The reinforcement rings made them lay uneven so I had to run them in small lifts. Was about 3 hours total. Had to let them dry a bit after the first pass to back them up. I gripped the tail end of the card on both sides. The press has excellent register. The tags are 13pt stock. Had to use old blankets as the rings leave a nice dent in the blankets. And check carefully for low spots LOL. I was going to take a few pics running them but had my hands full. Not much time to take pictures. I was just happy I was able to pull it off. Not a easy thing to run for sure!

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Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 10 years ago
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LOL - That leaning stack is exactly what I visualized in my mind and why I asked you how the hell you did it. I knew you were doing tricks back there to run those cards. Good you had the Ryobi instead of one of those old dinosaur multi's. The way those old machines can be so temperamental, it would have added hours to getting the job through the press.

I know the effort it took. It really is appreciated. How did you get away with running the job??? I know the boss wasn't in the shop! After hours? :p

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 10 years ago
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The boss was ok with it. The press needed a ton of repair work to get it running well again. That was also a big part of the delay. Everyrthing else I run is larger format and couldn't do tags that small. So I did the repairs and he also lets me run any personal jobs I need to. I also have a key..... LOL.

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 10 years ago
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Glenn and John,I`m totally blown away!!! Those tags look fantastic and gave me goosebumps to see how wonderful they turned out.All that Gary N. and myself did was to supply you guys with a source,but it was you two that were the work horses here and made this project happen and those tags come to life.And WOW !-did they ever come to life! Makes me want to throw my old one out for one of those new ones,lol.

Now...me not being a printer and haven`t a clue about anything in the trade.After looking at how they turned out gave me a real appreciation for the amazing work that you guys do and you`re both top notch experts in the printing trade-that`s for certain!Thank you both so very much for making so many Rogers Dyna owners on the VDF brim from ear to ear,cause after they get these tags and see how they look on their snares-those smiles will be the result of your hard work.Heaps of thanks to you both.

Ps.Glenn, could you please save me a couple,thanks.

Wayne

1967 Rogers Cleveland Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1967/68 Rogers Dayton Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1966 Rogers cob 7 Line Dynasonic Snare.
1967 Rogers "Humberto Morales" Timbales.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge 14x 6.5 Black Beauty Snare.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge Red Cortex
22,22,18,16,15,14,13.
1988 Sonor "Horst Link" HLD 590 14x8 Bronze Snare
Posted on 10 years ago
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Hi Wayne thank you very much for the kind thoughts. Yes indeed I have your address and sent you a email earlier today also. Your on the list and have some saved for you. I'll send some extras for any friends of yours that might want one too.

PS don't throw away that original~! Laughing H It is probably one of the few real originals left. I know your just kidding. It's great you kept it and the reason we are here today!! So a BIG thank you once again!

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 10 years ago
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Glenn: many thanks to you, Wayne, Gary, and John for fine work. Can't wait to get the tag!

Hugh

1966 Rogers Holidays 8x12, 9x13, 16x16, 14x20, 14x22, with matching 5x14 Powertone in BDP
1967 Rogers Dynasonic in COB
Posted on 10 years ago
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Ok guys everyone who PM'd me is packed and ready to go. I'm heading to the Post Office after work tomorrow and will update who's have been sent.

I'd also like to hear the condition they arrive in if you could please. I used a small padded envelopes and tags are in baggies inside them. I would suggest cutting the baggie open as they are a tight fit. Also be careful when you open the padded envelope. Not to cut too deep.

If any are bent or damaged when they arrive please let me know. I'll send you out replacements. If anyone does not get their tags also let me know. I want to be sure everyone who asked gets them.

Longjohn I have yours ready but will need to use a small box to ship them in. I'll update you with tracking info when I get home tomorrow. I hope I can send them priority vs snail mail. I'll see what they tell me at the PO.

Wayne and Kelly yours as shipping also. Not sure if there's extra forms to fill out but will also update you guys tomorrow. Your are in the padded envelopes. So if anything is bent or damaged I'll send replacements in a small box.

Thanks everyone!

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 10 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

>Kerning. Now, that's a word I haven't heard since my Compugraphic days Kerning = Is the design of copy/fonts and the adjustment of the spacing between (letters or characters) in a piece of text to be printed.Sorry for using, jargon. I was talking to another printer (Glenn) in a language specific to our trade. That tag was a bee-atch to do! You'll see when you get your tags that the spacing of words and individual letters on the original tags was all over the map. If I ran the shop that produced those tags originally, I would have fired the typographer on the spot. It was done horribly and all wrong.In order to recreate and to maintain the look of the original piece, I had to follow the original typographers foot prints in the snow. It wasn't easy, the copy is all over the map on the original as I mentioned. Weird breaks and spacing everywhere. I had to blow everything up by 250% on my computer just to work on it and make the corrections and adjustments that were needed. There was broken copy/letters and words all over the place that I cleaned up one by one, by hand. Positioning the graphics and copy where they needed to be is part of what I used to do for a living. Because Glenn is a fellow printing tradesman, he can appreciate the work that went into making that tag look as bad as the original! I am trained to make things look correct. Intentionally making something look bad/wrong to match an original is not an easy thing to do! LOLGlenn - again, great job on the tags. I know running those odd-shaped tags through a multi was not an easy press run for you. How did you run the back-ups? Had to be a PITA with that really odd-shaped tag. Usually you'd run regular card stock and the bindery guys would die-cut the cards. Work & turn baby! Nice work, man.John

John,i have to say that is the most perfect alignment of typographical errors that i`ve ever seen.I held my original tag up beside the pics Glenn sent and holy smokes every little nuance was spot on perfection.I understand how painstaking this was for you to do from following your and Glenn`s corespondence in the original thread.Blown up 250% and one letter at a time duplicating all the spacing imperfections to a T! But like you said..."it`s like riding a bicycle,you get on and it all comes back".Must have been so weird for an expert like you to have had to do everything wrong when you were taught to do this work right but WOW-you really nailed it.Can`t thank you enough John for all your work with Glenn on this really neat tag.After looking at the new tags i told Glenn i felt like throwing out my original one for one of those new ones,lol,but Glenn said" no-don`t do that". Many thanks again John-outstanding work!

Wayne

1967 Rogers Cleveland Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1967/68 Rogers Dayton Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1966 Rogers cob 7 Line Dynasonic Snare.
1967 Rogers "Humberto Morales" Timbales.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge 14x 6.5 Black Beauty Snare.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge Red Cortex
22,22,18,16,15,14,13.
1988 Sonor "Horst Link" HLD 590 14x8 Bronze Snare
Posted on 10 years ago
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Glenn/Purdie/Wayne Thanks..

Seems that these tags are a collectible work of art in their own right. Big project indeed... Thanks for all of the work gent's.. a great collaboration..

For OZ/NZ members... just PM me & I'll mail them straight out..

( I have Kerned a lot from this )

Cheers

John

'77 Slingerland 51N,Super Rock 24,18,14,13.. COW 8,10 Concert toms
'69 Slingerland Hollywood Ace
'75 Rogers Dynasonic 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'77-78 Slingerland 6.5 x 14, 10 lug COB
'78-79 Slingerland 5 1/4 x14 8 lug COB
'79 Biman 5 1/4, Acrolite
'82 Slingerland 5 1/4 x 14. Festival COS
'84 Tama MasterCraft Superstar 6.5 x 14, 10 lug Rosewood
'98 Slingerland (Music YO) 6" 10 Lug Maple.. NOS
Zildjian, Sabian , UFIP & Paiste mix.
Posted on 10 years ago
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