Looks like beavertail lugs to me, need a close-up of the leg mounts...

Sure looks like one. A look inside would tell all. The color could be Blue Mist, although it looks darker in this pic. The top of the legs look pointed. On my kit their squared off a bit.

Cheers,Ed

The hardware, lugs and mounts, are Rogers. Possibly the top hoop is Rogers. I dont think the bottom hoop is Rogers. The drum should be a five ply with rerings shell, speckled gray interior. If the drum is eight ply maple without rerings, then the mounts were changed at some time from Memrilock to Fullerton Swivomatic.

And of course the Badge, which should be Big R, USA, more rectangular than square. If the badge is Big R, but more square than rectangular, it will not have USA and would be indicative of an Island Import drum that is wearing Fullerton Swivomatic Mounts.

The legs..... are not Rogers.

It is on enay right now for less than 3.00...if anyone cares to have at it. If not, let me know, I will poke at it and see. The seller put me off twice, saying he did not have a camera, it is listed as a TAMA.....some people are clueless, his buddy, bith are drummers, think its TAMA....kids today, they should hang here instead of bars.

I have a bid in on it. And, well, should it prove to be a tama with tama mounts, theres always negative feedback.

jonnystix your right about that but but all you see at bars are dw's and

yamahas and tama's and pearls. i did a gig 5 years ago that i

brought a '61 ludwig club date kit to. it was a jam session and a lot

of kids were there. they went nuts! they never heard such warm and melodic

drums like that. they all had new japanese stuff (nothing wrong with that

i have a few too) these kids later said they bought a vintage kit which

made me feel great. education is the answer to everything!

This new Japanese stuff is tomorrows vintage gear,but it can never rival the old Luds,Rogers,Slingy,Gretsch etc...never.

Man you gotta hear my WMP whatever-the-heck-they-ares...they really are getting better. Now a guy posts a Polaris, which is Apolllo, and they have Star parts.....my eyes' twitchin'. I know that later on Pearl was making them, and in the early days were Star, but I have a klit that is defying description. I cannot tell whoi made my drums....this just furthers my theory that there had to be an independent foundry making the metal parts.