Your write, butt Its cymbolic, annyways.Yes Sir

JR You can't play it? WTF!

Indeed, it's built like a Benz... fast and smooth as silk, but HEAVY!

On a par with the Phonic in terms of build quality is the lighter Premier 252... quite unique in its design... it employs a compression spring... it's a superb performer. Compared to either, I find the Squeak King lacking.

Ron

The thing I like about the SK is the fact that the springs are sealed inside. While it may be true that "on-the-fly" adjustments are less convenient, I find that I've never had to adjust them all that much. Even when I have two or three different SKs that are adjusted to different spring tensions, it doesn't matter. They still feel good under my foot.

A lot of this has to do with HOW an individual places his/her foot on the pedal. I was taught "heel-DOWN" technique (as were a lot of guys back in my day) and the SK's foot board can be "fixed" to better accommodate the heel-down players. So, it was a much more comfortable pedal to the greater number of heel-down players of its era. When people started to develop more power-related bass drum techniques, more heel-UP playing techniques came to the forefront.

Plus, the SK has a solid linkage and a fairly extreme offset cam and both of those things give it a nice feel for my playing style. I like the feel of a solid linkage because it transfers energy better on the return stroke -as opposed to the pedal flop that happens with a strap or a chain. The offset cam shape means that I can still get some articulation with the pedal even at low volume playing.

P.S.,

The 'squeak' was never an issue for me. A drop of 3-in-1 oil or some WD-40 and problem solved.

My affinity for the Swivomatic pedal is due to all of the various adjustments that can be custom set. But, the tension adjustment is the best one for me. I am a profoundly left handed person who does three things in the conventional right handed way. Swinging a baseball bat or a golf club in a right handed manner just feels better to me because my backhanded motion of the left hand is much stronger than my forward push of the right hand. For playing drums, I also feel more comfortable playing righty. The problem is that my right foot is very slow. I set up the Swivo pedal so that the spring is as taut as it can be. I also lengthen the travel of the beater so that the beater ball snaps back to actually slap my instep if I don't stop it in time.

I owned a Swivomatic pedal in the early 70's Nice pedal. I got the model with the fixed heel plate (again, because it was a better design for heel-down playing). I liked it except for one thing; The strap was leather and therefore would stretch and wear out over time. No big deal, really. Then later on, I bought a couple Supreme (Memriloc) pedals and loved those except for the fact that the heel hinge-pin would work its way out of the heel plate. It never came completely out on me when I was using it on gigs....but it came very close to it a few times. Eventually, I bought a DW5000 Turbo (single chain). I like it because I can depend on it...but I still prefer the feel of the SpeedKing. The reason I use the DW on gigs as opposed to the SpeedKing is that I am currently playing a small bass drum that sits in a homemade cradle and I need the DW because it has the baseplate that allows it to stand on its own, butted up next to the cradle without being clamped...and the SK doesn't work in that application. Anytime I go out with a "real" bass drum, I take the SK, though! ;)

Has anyone said Speed King?

What's a Speed King? :p

its ghostly close to a ghost

he said not ludwig,

I say camco, not tama's version, vintage fast relieable, camco. or an early dw.

Premier 252 is ACE!!!!!