If I wasn't such a bonham-geek, this sorta crap wouldn't bother me...but it does. This one is wrong on so many different levels that I challenge you all to point out the many flaws/issues/ridiculousness; apparent or not.
I'll get the ball rolling with the $3k buy it now. Ok, you're turn!!
really i can't even fathom a response..
this made my stomach hurt.
Falling Do
Maybe some Bonham nut will buy itLaughing HLaughing H...Iam not one that would but then again iam not a Bonham nut..He was just one of many R@R drummers...Mikey
...uh...not even vintage shells...?...and assembled from vintage parts....?....and dang, someone actually bid more than my smarta$$ bid of 5.00....whoodathunkit?
I like how he doesn't even mention what the shells are or even a picture of them. He only says "We bought them new". So the shells could be made from blue and popsicle sticks for all we know.
This kit is worth what the genuine vintage ludwig hardware is worth at best.
it's up to 10.50 now!!!
LoLoLoLo
Well....if they used Keller vintage maple shells, thats about as close to the original shells as you can get, aside from the NEW Legacy shells Ludwig is offering. Having attempted assembling some Leedy "replica" drums for myself...I can tell you that the BIN is not too far off from what this person probably has invested. Will they get it? Probably not, since they are not real Ludwig drums. Are they good sounding? Possibly......depends on what they used for shells.....but I'm guessing Keller.....
I can tell you that the BIN is not too far off from what this person probably has invested.
I'd say this guy didn't invest wisely considering the execution is so poor. If you are going to build a "true replica" you may want to at least pay attention to the details: 18"x18" floor tom, 8-lug 14" rack tom, aftermarket shells (even if they are Kellers), wierd looking grommets etc. Not exactly in the spirit of a replica or a clone, as far as I'm concerned. Bonham inspired, perhaps. I put together a replica a few years ago which was comprised of actual early 70's 3-ply Ludwig drums and I had a hard time getting $3k...but eventually I did, and made a little on it too :)
NICE!
Bowing
I'd say this guy didn't invest wisely considering the execution is so poor. If you are going to build a "true replica" you may want to at least pay attention to the details: 18"x18" floor tom, 8-lug 14" rack tom, aftermarket shells (even if they are Kellers), wierd looking grommets etc. Not exactly in the spirit of a replica or a clone, as far as I'm concerned. Bonham inspired, perhaps. I put together a replica a few years ago which was comprised of actual early 70's 3-ply Ludwig drums and I had a hard time getting $3k...but eventually I did, and made a little on it too :)
So what would bring this Ebay kit up to par with true specs. I am reading some sites including the Drumworld article and demos by John's old tech. He discloses some info, not everything. John played a 6 lug rack - and different sizes at different times, and had a Rogers consolette installed to boot.
Ebay kit is:
14 x 26 (8 lug - I got 6 lug hoops and plan to modify this shell or get another one to drill)
10 x 14
16 x 16
18 x 18 (This can be machined down to 16")
They are Keller shells.
The hardware is original 70s hardware from the looks of it.
Check these:
http://www.griptoad.com/JBKITS.html
And from Wikipedia:
Studio and Touring Kit (1970–1973)
Drums — Ludwig Green Sparkle
14 × 10ʺ Tom (mounted on a rail consolette mount)
16 × 16ʺ Floor Tom
18 × 16ʺ Floor Tom
26 × 14ʺ Bass Drum
14 × 6.5ʺ Ludwig Chrome Supraphonic 402 Snare
29ʺ Machine Timpani (1972+)
29ʺ 32ʺ Universal Timpani (1972+)
Ludwig Speed King Bass pedal
I got the Ebay kit for 1000.00 including shipping - not bad for a starting point to assemble something. I mounted a Lugwig consolette for time being. I have been a percussionist for 37+ years, and in my 'ear experience' these drums have dynamics off the scale. Hand and stick rythem sounds both are very high quality. They sound good, I am very pleased, but need some tweaking to dial in something closer to John's sounds.
Thanks for any help here!
