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Hi all,

I picked up a '69 set of Ludwig Downbeats recently that came with a Standard snare. I know these normally came with a Supraphonic and I have found one locally with a serial number in the same range as the other drums starting with 7. My question is does having the whole set together give it more value than selling the 3 matching drums and the snare separate or would it not really add any value to the whole setup? The person is asking $250 for the snare and it looks to have very minimal pitting. Outside of the value issue I think it would be cool to have the whole thing together. I'd love to have a Downbeat snare but I don't even know if they made them that year and I'm sure I could never afford one! I hope my question makes sense. And by the way, the drums are black oyster pearl.

DoubleJ

Posted on 15 years ago
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What's the scoop on the Standard snare? What's the shell/wrap? Are you going to keep it?

Posted on 15 years ago
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The Standard is a 5.5 x 14 chrome. It is in super shape with only a couple very small specs of pitting, just nothing rare or special I guess.

Posted on 15 years ago
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IF...and that's "if", you don't want it, there are some here who might be interested...me. PM me if you want to tread this road.

Posted on 15 years ago
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As to your question about a Supra to go with the set, my sense is that matching wood snares sometimes (maybe often but not always) add more value than they are worth by themselves IF they are a really good match, but metal snares seldom (maybe sometimes) do. In other words, since the metal snares are easily available and therefore easy to match, you probably wouldn't get more if you sold the set with the metal snare than you would by selling them separately. Get the snare if you want it (Supra's are great snares), but the Standard you have isn't going to sound much different (assuming they're both 5-1/2 inch).

Posted on 15 years ago
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The Standard snare is basically an Acrolite. It's going to sound very much like an Acrolite . . . which sounds sort of like a Supra. They are good drums, the both of them. You can't go wrong with either. If the Standard is in excellent shape, then that would be the one to play. It's a good sounding snare drum. If I'm not mistaken, your Standard snare is even chrome plated. That makes it even that much more like a Supra. You're missing two lugs, have a different badge, and maybe something with the throw. That's about it. It's going to sound slightly more open than a Supra. That's my take, for what it's worth. Good snare - bad rep.

I'm searching one out as a hoot for my Standard kit. It's not necessary. Just a neato snare to put with it. Kinda like adding a Krupa snare to a Buddy Rich kit that already has a matching snare. It just seems like the thing to do.

Posted on 15 years ago
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I sort of made a "matching" snare to go with the kit. I had a Pearl Firecracker snare that I paid about $15 for so I got the Black Oyster Pearl wrap from Precision Drum and wrapped it. Looks pretty close to the original. It goes pretty well being a 5"x12" and the Downbeats having the small 12" and 14" sizes. Doesn't add value but it looks pretty cool. Not a bad snare for under $50 total either! I'll try to post some pictures when I can.

Posted on 15 years ago
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