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1970's Ludwig Psychedelic Shell Last viewed: 3 hours ago

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Hi,

I just do not know what to do?

I have only one original bass drum hoop with its original psychedelic bass drum strip. I did not know if it was possible to remove the strip to put onto a better conditioned vintage bass drum hoop from the one bass drum hoop that I have. The bass drum hoop that I have is cracked really bad from the speed king bass drum pedal where it attaches to the hoop shown in first attachment and the hoop is in bad condition has lots of paint rubbed off, pealed off etc. around it as shown in second attachment.

a)How would painting the hoop affect the value of the drum set versus buying a vintage bass drum hoop in great condition and would it be better to buy.

b)How would one repair the crack from the bass drum pedal or would it be best to buy a vintage bass drum hoop in great condition.

I have been watching ebay and have researched for psychedelic bass drum hoops without any success. If I would need to purchase a couple bass drum hoops or just another bass drum hoop and do not know how these other options besides an original bass drum hoop with psychedelic bass drum strip would impact the value of my ludwig psychedelic drum set:

a) buy vintage bass drum hoop and staple on reproduction ludwig psychedelic bass drum strip

b) buy vintage bass drum hoop and staple on original ludwig psychdeleic bass drum strip

c) buy vintage bass drum hoop and staple on original ludwig psychedelic material to make couple strips.

I asked the person that was selling the scrap on ebay because on my bass drum hoop I only felt one cut and staple and did not know what piecing two strips would have done to value of drum set. He replied that alot of times back then ludwig used scrapped pieces and that having more than one place with staple would look ok. This person's ebay listing is below but over and was just wondering whether it would have been good way to have gone to cut 2 strips and put around a vintage bass drum hoop:

Wow, here is a really cool drum project up for grabs. Bidding staring are one dollar and NO reserve.

This is a 1970s Blue and Olive Badge 3 ply grey interior 10"x14" concert tom that I had chopped up and made a 6"x14" snare drum. This drum is the finished drum on the right.

For sale is what is left over. A shell that is just under 4 inches thick, and a reinforcement ring to be installed. When this was a Tom someone put a Rogers Swivo mount on it. The shell for sale has 100% of the wounds from that mount. I believe that this project will be a really cool looking great sounding snare. The snare I made sounds Awesome. The shell is in really great condition and there is practically NO FADE in the wrap.

Item is sold in AS IS condition with no returns accepted. Winning bid is a contract to buy. Buyer must make contact to arrange payment within 48 hours of end of auction.

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Posted on 18 years ago
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Lots of questions here.

In my opinion, the best thing is to sand the hoop, force wood glue into the crack and clamp it. Prime and repaint, you will never see the split after it is sanded and painted and usually glue joints are stronger then the wood.

So in the end the hoops are not a huge issue on vintage drums and many times they get sanded and repainted.

I personally would not go to the expense of finding a hoop etc..

Once it is glued, it should stay pretty strong and put the split in a different spot on the bass drum.

I forgot if your drum had both hoops?, if so, work with what you have and keep the drum as original as possible.

In the end you can send it out to Jack Lawton and it have it done professionally, which is what I would recommend if you have the money.

Having Jack do it will probably be better for value then doing it yourself

since you have never done it before. You will see a lot of Ebay auctions with Jack Lawton in the description because it gives some credability to the work that was done.

David

Posted on 18 years ago
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Lots of questions here. In my opinion, the best thing is to sand the hoop, force wood glue into the crack and clamp it. Prime and repaint, you will never see the split after it is sanded and painted and usually glue joints are stronger then the wood. So in the end the hoops are not a huge issue on vintage drums and many times they get sanded and repainted. I personally would not go to the expense of finding a hoop etc.. Once it is glued, it should stay pretty strong and put the split in a different spot on the bass drum. I forgot if your drum had both hoops?, if so, work with what you have and keep the drum as original as possible. In the end you can send it out to Jack Lawton and it have it done professionally, which is what I would recommend if you have the money. Having Jack do it will probably be better for value then doing it yourselfsince you have never done it before. You will see a lot of Ebay auctions with Jack Lawton in the description because it gives some credability to the work that was done. David

Thank you for the info on my bass drum hoop and the contact information on restoring my drums. No, I do not have both hoops. So, I need to get another psychedelic hoop for my bass drum.

Best Wishes,

Robert

Posted on 18 years ago
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Jack is the expert in this area and he has a stock of vintage wraps. Exactly what he has I really do not know, but I do know people that have had work done and they rave about it.

Here is his web site, but there is not much to do there except get the phone number.

David

Posted on 18 years ago
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Posts: 27 Threads: 13

thank you. Once I get a job and earn some money I will look into having my drums restored. Best Regards, Rob

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Jack is the expert in this area and he has a stock of vintage wraps. Exactly what he has I really do not know, but I do know people that have had work done and they rave about it.Here is his web site, but there is not much to do there except get the phone number.David

Just got these bass drum hoops back from Lawton Drum Company. He put in original psychedelic inlay and refinished the hoops. The two that I bought from you on ebay as you look at the picture are on the left. The other hoop far right came with my drumset and it was in bad shape so had that one done too. Thank you for the advice. Regards, Robert username: rknarr2

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