Okay Monty

Sure, get the whole lot for $500... less if you can.

And go ahead and get his Social Security number, and passwords to everything he has a password on.

While you're there, get him to sign a contract giving you 50% royalties on any money he might make in the future as a musician.

If you're going to screw him, don't half-ass it... go all the way, man.

Oh yeah, get him to make you a sandwich on your way out, I'm always hungry afterward, aren't you?

Not trying to fight....but, I say throw a low offer out there. That's how I'm playing this game now. If I can't get it for cheap it wasn't meant to be. I mean as long as you aren't going to just flip the thing! But, if your going to keep it....GO FOR IT! There are so many old Ludwig sets out there that eventually you will hit a deal. :) Trust Me!

Mind you he could just say "no" and you will have to negotiate from there....

It doesn't hurt to try.

Drumbum,

Thanks for the less acidic reply than the first one! I'm not trying to cheat the guy at all, in any way shape or form. Like a said, I mainly want the snare if he'll break the set.

You never know, tomorrow when I go check it out it may turn out that I'm the one getting the shaft. And honestly, it REALLY is a buyers market. Hands down. If the guy will take a reasonable (affordable to me) offer, then why should I lose sleep over it. I get what I pay for.....NEVER to flip, by the way, and he gets anough money to survive. Looks like we both win, doesn't it?

And to the "guy" that gave me my first reply to my first post ever, calm the crap down, man. All I asked were a series of questions wanting answers. I didn't want the smart mouth reply. Maybe you should set aside the second case off Coors your on and call it a night. Sounds like a good idea.

Kevin is a good guy....we are all here for the love of vintage drums! And just as I have an opinion on the topic so does Kevin. Nobody here wants to see someone get taken advantage of during a deal...I think that is all Kevin was trying to point out. :) And in the end you will do what YOU want to do so...do we really don't need to go crazy over a topic? Good luck on the deal... if it doesn't workout ....it doesn't work out. But, at least you tried.

Hey Kevin,

Try bringing it down a little, okay? I was asking for advice, not a Blunderbus fired at point blank range covering me in childish cheap shots. But, I forgive you.

With that said, what would you consider to be a fair offering price (depending on what I find tomorrow)?

Was I correct in saying the the Buddy Rich set made by Ludwig didn't come out on the market until 1948?

I welcome any and all advice, just keep the smart assed comments to yourself instead of posting them in your response. If you have a gripe, send me a private message from now on.

Regards,

Monty

Drumbum,

I should have let the ink dry, as they say before firing off at Kevin. And you are exactly right. Everyone has their own opinion. So, sorry to my only gents who replied tonight for the way things blew up. Bad.

Alright, let's say you were confronted with this set as a potential buyer. The guy has been offered a considerable amount in trade but can't use it since he is in a financial pinch. Firstly, what is the set as I've described it in my first post worth in your opinions? Secondly, what would you consider to be a fair offer for the entire lot, or for the snare and cymbals (depending on what they are)?

Again, not trying to cheat the seller. That's not what I do. I apologize if that's how it came off to begin with. Kevin, if you're still here these questions are for you as well!!

Monty

I might also add that he has had this set for sale for some time with no serious cash offers.

Anything of value has been offered as a trade only deal, which under normal circumstances would be a great deal for him as an investment. Unfortunately his goal is a cash sale...

My opinion, and it is exactly that, is that if he is asking $1500, as it appears you mentioned in the beginning, is 500 fair? No. The reason is the cymabals alone are going to be worth way more than that, and you know it. The snare, if it is what you suspect, is probably a 500 snare in and of itself, so is 500 fair? How would like it if I came to you asked you to sell me your 1500 kit for 500, knowing you need the cash, and I know it is worth maybe 3-4, maybe 5 times that, if there happen to be some very tasty K Zildjians in there? At least give the guy enough to pay rent and get groceries for a couple of weeks. So what that he is a starving muscian, that gives you the right to lowball how? And seperating a kit of that age is another sore spot with this group of collectors, they have been married for over 60 years, and you care about is the snare....bad juju.

I'm sorry, seems your dad was right, he is asking way more than 1500, and you want him to go all the way to 500.....

This deal has a lot of angles to consider.

What you originally posted was would a $500 offer for the whole lot be fair?

In my opinion.... no.

What you also threw into the mix is the guy needs money badly, and would that justify the offer?

In my opinion.... no.

Another aspect is the reality of the current buyers market situation, and would that justify the offer?

In my opinion...... a lower price than this time a

year and a half ago....yes..... $500 ? ...... no

The intention of your original post appeared to me that you are looking for someone to approve of you taking advantage of someone who is in need.

That ain't gonna be me, obviously.

If you didn't know of the guy's financial situation, would your offer be the same?

If all you really want is the snare, then just go buy that. Don't screw him out of the rest of the set for just a few more dollars than the snare alone is worth.

And no sweat about firing off on me. I can take just as good as I give.

But I will post in public, whether you consider it childish or not.

BTW, the last drink I had was over ten years ago, so inebriation doesn't enter into the equation here.